4 Month old Springer still biting, Will not listen !!

by Ross
(South Wales)

Charlie (after a bath) 5 Months

Charlie (after a bath) 5 Months

Hello Everyone, Some of you may remember charlie from when I last asked about him, if not here is my last question:


Anyway, Since 8 weeks hes come on fantastic. Don't need the lead when im walking him as he stays with me or never much further than about 10 foot away from me. Perfect with the toilet, I think we had a total of 3 accidents and he is perfect with bed time. However there are a few problems I have.

In the family it's me, my mum and my dad, My mum is with him all day and me and my dad work all day. When we come home Charlie is over the moon to see us, So much so he wees a little bit, We had some advice of a police dog handler who advised to ignore him until he calms then make a fuss. This works and he barely wee's at all now.

Anyway my dad has been very firm with him from day 1 and when Charlie first bit him my dad hit him. I however never did this as I don't think hitting him is right. The problem is he associates me with playing everytime he see's me, Possibly my own fault.

The playing isn't an issue, Charlie likes to bite when he plays though, It's not exactly hard but it gets hard as he gets more excited.

Iv'e tried alot of things, Picking him up and putting him outside for 5 mins, Ignoring him, Making a loud noise, Slapping a news paper against something, but he seems to think it's all fun and games, He literally does not understand NO. If you do shout at him he gets even more excited and sprints round the living room bouncing off everything.

I just need him to understand no means no. I think the reason he does not do it to my dad is because he was aggresive with him in the beginning and showed him he was boss. If we are all in the living room he will favour my mum or me over my dad. So he seems to know which side his bread is buttered haha. Im hoping its to do with teething, Any suggestions would be great.

Also when walking him he is very scared of other dogs/people, Another dog only needs to approach him and he cowers and yelps then hides behind. He is a shy dog and it takes him 10 - 15 minutes to adapt to new people before he even goes near them

Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks for all the responses last time

Ross.

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by: Kimberly

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Jun 08, 2012
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by: Kirsty

I have a 5month old ESS from a working line and she is the exact same with me. She is starting to become very aggressive with only me, growling and biting me. I have tried saying no, holding her muzzle and turning my back on her, she just latches onto my legs when I do this. I'm at a loss however I am going to try the clicker!

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Dec 04, 2011
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by: Michele

You would be doing yourselves and your pup a big favor by finding a dog trainer or obedience class. Puppies bite and do eventually stop, but you will learn how to take control of that, and other issues in the obedience class.

Dec 03, 2011
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Biteing NEW
by: Clare

Help my springer is 16 weeks old and can get really aggresive we have tired a few things to stop her like putting her on crate or grabbing her by scuf of neck and growling back at her but nuffin works she is bad with my dad and made his finger bleed its mainly in evening we walk her 2 times adam and play with her loads my mum is home with her every day please help is this normal thank you

Nov 21, 2011
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to bite or not to bite NEW
by: Anonymous

I had a very similar problem with my springer as a puppy, he is now 10. At about 16 weeks he bit me good to the point of drawing blood, not meaning to but we were playing, at this point I had had enough, so I bit him back on the ear, not using my teeth but I put my lips over my teeth and applied enough pressure that he didn't like it. Best results every he never bit after that day.

Nov 16, 2011
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by: Anonymous

We had a similar problem wiht our springer, the biting was never hard but obveously you want it to stop as when they get older it will become more of a problem. We tried everything, replacing your hand with a toy etc all the usual advice. The only thing that worked for us is that every time she went to mouth us we would instantly stop what we were doing and close her mouth with your hand (around her muzzle just hold it shut) and calmly and firmly say NO BITING. give it a few seconds for it to sink in to your pup and then either carry on with what you were doing or finish playing and come back a few minutes later (showing that mouthing stops play)

It took a few weeks but she got it in the end and now doesnt mouth at all!!

hope it works for you!

Nov 09, 2011
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Hand-chewing Springer NEW
by: Anonymous

My Springer, Felicia, has this 'chewing' problem, too. I am her favorite 'chew-toy' at our house, when she gets in this mood. It is worst in the evening. I put her in 'time-out' in her crate when she gets overly aggressive with me, with no treat. When she starts in, I ask her if she needs a time out, and she usually runs to her crate and waits for me to come shut it up. I only have to leave her there a minute or two, and she calms down and can return to us. I think she is tired, and doesn't control herself well then.
Felicia loves her crate, and goes there when we ask her to, whenever she thinks we are going to leave, or if we ask her if she wants to go to bed. Using it for time out has not changed her willingness to go there when we need her to, as she gets a treat if it is not a time out.

Nov 08, 2011
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by: Ross

Thanks again fopr your response Michele, My mum does not walk him in the day, but she's always playing with him through out the day and as soon as I come home from work I take him for a 20 minute walk, he was born on June 22nd so he's 4 months 2 weeks.

He is crate trained and only goes in there in the night as if we leave it open throughout the day he drags his blankets out and chews them. So to combat the problem we keep it shut. Throughout the day he will sleep in the chair, sofa or wherever he gets comfortable (lately its under the radiator).

I see what you mean about standing up straight. He stops what he's doing, I usually lean over him ranting rubbish because he dosn't listen.

Nov 08, 2011
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by: Michele

I meant to say this too - cowering when meeting strangers or other dogs is very normal for puppies. The best way to get over this is to regularly walk him where you will run into both. Stop and let him be petted by people. Take a few treats and ask strangers to give him one. If you do this on a regular basis you'll see a big difference.

Nov 08, 2011
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by: Michele

I may be a little confused about his age...if he's about 5 months it's possible he is teething. This usually starts about 4 months of age. It sounds to me like the biting is more due to excitement though. From your post it seems you are trying several things to stop his bad behavior, so you're obviously concerned about it and you have some good ideas.

5 months is very young and this is the time for training, training, training. And patience! Lots of it. It sounds to me as if you have both. You do need to get his attention so he is listening to the sound of your voice. In addition to your voice, your body language speaks volumes to dogs. Standing up straight and tall, rather than bending over toward him, lets him know you mean business.

Have you ever tried a clicker? They are very inexpensive and can be bought at most pet shops. They make a loud clicking sound, which gets their attention. When misbehaving starts, click a couple of times and in a firm voice say No. Firm doesn't necessarily mean yelling!

Is he crate trained? If so, once the biting starts he needs to go right to his crate for a short time-out.

Another thought...maybe he isn't getting enough exercise. Springers are very high energy and easily get into trouble when they don't receive enough exercise. Is your Mom able to walk him throughout the day?

I think you're on the right track, but it does take time. And very important is consistency. Also, explain to your Dad that hitting the dog is unfair to him, unnecessary and doesn't solve anything.

Nov 08, 2011
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by: Ross

Thanks for the response Michele, I know hitting is unaacceptable and I've told him this from day 1. I just don't understand why he associates biting with me ? I come in from work and before I do anything he's at my trousers and bouncing around I can't seem to stop it, he does not understand NO

Nov 08, 2011
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by: Michele

Hitting a dog is never acceptable and only worsens the problem. Tell your Dad to keep his hands to himself.

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